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Episode #2

Impunity from Syria to Ukraine

October 3rd, 2022

In the first episode of People Like Us, host Kim Ghattas brings us to the heart of the show’s purpose and the genesis of its concept.

In a personal essay published in 2021 in The Atlantic magazine, she connected the dots between the unraveling of three different places: Beirut, Hong Kong, Kabul between 2019 and 2021.

Even before the war in Ukraine, the global world order was imploding with stunning rapidity for people there as China strangled Hong Kong, Lebanon’s economy crashed and Afghanistan returned to Taliban rule. Reactions to her article came not only from the region but from around the globe, underscoring how much connects people everywhere, and how the Middle East’s own experience is relevant to others. Kim speaks to Lina Mounzer in Beirut, a writer and translator who captured the mood in Beirut in her essays for the NYT, Shawn Yuan, an award-winning journalist who covered the protests in Beirut and Hong Kong protests and told her he had hoped China’s future would look like Hong Kong; and Muska Dastageer, a professor at the American University of Kabul who had to flee Kabul when U.S. troops withdrew in the summer of 2021.

Guests

Lina Mounzer

In the first season of the show, Kim talks to film makers, activists, authors, refugees, politicians, even a sexologist, exploring a pressing theme in every episode, from Roe v Wade to impunity in Syria and Ukraine, bringing a fresh, distinctive perspective on current events, as well socio-economic and cultural trends.

Shawn Yuan

In the first season of the show, Kim talks to film makers, activists, authors, refugees, politicians, even a sexologist, exploring a pressing theme in every episode, from Roe v Wade to impunity in Syria and Ukraine, bringing a fresh, distinctive perspective on current events, as well socio-economic and cultural trends.

Further reading

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